In this episode, Kirk sits down with pastor and political theologian Jonathan Leeman to talk Church and politics. They discuss, what is the relationship between church and state? Religion and politics? And how do we love those with whom we disagree politically?

Access the episode here (available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, and more).

Resources from Leeman on politics:

• How The Nations Rage: Rethinking Faith and Politics in a Divided Age (2018)
• Political Church: The Local Assembly as Embassy of Christ’s Rule (2016)
• How Can I Love Church Members with Different Politics? (2020) // [Update: A free audio recording of the book is now available as well.]
• “Politics, Conscience, and the Church: Why Christians Passionately Disagree with One Another over Politics, Why They Must Agree to Disagree over Jagged-Line Political Issues, and How” (Themelios: 45:1, 2020)